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pass the law and be with your 4 year old daily (like heaven) 1 50.00%
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Faja 12:36 PM 08-31-2009
if I where a law maker I would fight to free the Parents. It came to me that a child should be with the Parents up to Kinder. When 1st grade begins for the child the parent may go back to Work. There should be a loan or a grant given to the parents that choose to use the route. I strongly feel the law should make both parents have to be with the child the entire 4th year of the child. If the parents choose not to do the entire 5 years by law they would have to do the 4th year.
Or at least split shifts for the parents at work due to a child must be an entire year daily with the parents it being the 4th year.
I feel this will create for the family a stronger foundation for the future of a family.

It is healthy for Parents to be with the child minimum of one year and it being the 4th year.

just thoughts from hope that we don't continue to allow money to keep things from us like our own kids childhoods.

There is nothing more wonderful then to be able to daily see your child grow , especially with no stressfull distractions from work which interfere with a childs growing experience and may be a big part of the reason some children begin to fall back, this solution will also decrease the chances of the child to have criminal mentalities. (if i mispell pardon)



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ConcernedMotherof2 06:28 AM 09-01-2009
While I agree with you that it is always best for children to be at home with their parents when they are young, it is not always feasable. Also, daycare can be a wonderful social learning experience for children and prepare them for public school. I also believe that with all the problems this country has with people having multiple children just to live off of government assistance, a program like this would only intensify the problem. This is not to say that everyone who took advantage of the program you are suggesting would abuse it, but the sad fact is that MANY would. What would happen if a woman decided she wanted to pop out a kid every 3 to 4 years just to avoid working for a living?

Subsidized childcare is much more effective... some states have programs (though not widely advertised) that help working mothers pay for childcare when their income is not sufficient.
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Chickenhauler 11:00 PM 09-06-2009
Originally Posted by Faja:
if I where a law maker I would fight to free the Parents. It came to me that a child should be with the Parents up to Kinder. When 1st grade begins for the child the parent may go back to Work. There should be a loan or a grant given to the parents that choose to use the route. I strongly feel the law should make both parents have to be with the child the entire 4th year of the child. If the parents choose not to do the entire 5 years by law they would have to do the 4th year.
Or at least split shifts for the parents at work due to a child must be an entire year daily with the parents it being the 4th year.
I feel this will create for the family a stronger foundation for the future of a family.

It is healthy for Parents to be with the child minimum of one year and it being the 4th year.

just thoughts from hope that we don't continue to allow money to keep things from us like our own kids childhoods.

There is nothing more wonderful then to be able to daily see your child grow , especially with no stressfull distractions from work which interfere with a childs growing experience and may be a big part of the reason some children begin to fall back, this solution will also decrease the chances of the child to have criminal mentalities. (if i mispell pardon)


I take it you're willing and ready to give up at least 25% of your personal income (maybe more) to subsidize someone who wants to have litter after litter of offspring just so they don't have to work? Cuz that's what it's going to become.

Here's a better idea-let people raise their own damn kids, and keep the gov't out of it. Gov't has no clue how to raise kids, look at what their way of doing this is doing to our society.

If a person feels that their children will be better raised by them 24/7 rather than going to DC, here's an idea-wait until they can afford for one parent to take that time off from their career, or better yet, find a way to make an income where the one parent is always at home (stay at home mom, do daycare, farm, etc) rather than looking to me, him and her to foot the bill for someone else's dream of producing a "little me" in hopes that the kid doesn't turn out like them.

Screw this idea, it's part of the big problem facing society today-lack of personal accountability. People want everything handed to them, at the expense of others.

How about we teach our kids at a young age life is what they make it, not what the gov't gives them?

There is no law saying you're not allowed to spend as much time with your child as you please. Don't start shoving more laws down people's throats just because you want to hang with your kid all day long and have someone else pay the tab.
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seashell 05:22 AM 09-08-2009
Originally Posted by Chickenhauler:
I take it you're willing and ready to give up at least 25% of your personal income (maybe more) to subsidize someone who wants to have litter after litter of offspring just so they don't have to work? Cuz that's what it's going to become.

Here's a better idea-let people raise their own damn kids, and keep the gov't out of it. Gov't has no clue how to raise kids, look at what their way of doing this is doing to our society.

If a person feels that their children will be better raised by them 24/7 rather than going to DC, here's an idea-wait until they can afford for one parent to take that time off from their career, or better yet, find a way to make an income where the one parent is always at home (stay at home mom, do daycare, farm, etc) rather than looking to me, him and her to foot the bill for someone else's dream of producing a "little me" in hopes that the kid doesn't turn out like them.

Screw this idea, it's part of the big problem facing society today-lack of personal accountability. People want everything handed to them, at the expense of others.

How about we teach our kids at a young age life is what they make it, not what the gov't gives them?

There is no law saying you're not allowed to spend as much time with your child as you please. Don't start shoving more laws down people's throats just because you want to hang with your kid all day long and have someone else pay the tab.

Well said, I couldn't agree more. We need less government, not more!
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tymaboy 05:55 AM 09-08-2009
Originally Posted by :
We need less government, not more!
Agree. The way I see things the Gov. is already paying for parents to stay home & have yet more children that they already can not afford or care for.
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Faja 12:42 PM 09-09-2009
we have one child. as a spiritual person it comes to me it is God that decides when a person is born not people. evil will let people feel they have the power to give life. through people life is also taken away. The People are the true gov. but have been lied to and beleive they have no power to see that. we don't plan on having another child and for sure if we did it would not be for a tax break. we do not decide if we have another child, it is the will of God. even though my spouse is on birth control, chemicals can't stop the will of God. we do show faith by using the chemicals and with the action in faith deny new life thru us. if people don't see that the gov are humans also, then they will never see that everyone is the gov. as well as the church. So on t$e other hand yup lets continue with what they say and teach the kids to become /wealthy so their great great great grandchild or children may have the Glory to be by the child's side daily and not a mere year a child request. People spend more time with co workers than their own family unless you count sleeping in the same planet quality time.

we are bless to be in success thanks to the ones that aren't.

For the ones i read about yall having babies for a crappy whatever itis yall get , please stop. If it wasn't for you this thread would be full of 2 thumbs up.

Free the Parents

how bout free the kids,
you sip! kids learn
once first grade kicks in, thanks to good parenting thru a single year,
a full of Grace foundation has been est.

what did jesus do inspirations.
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mac60 05:20 PM 09-09-2009
??? Wow, I didn't understand any of that.
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Faja 05:27 PM 09-09-2009
which parts may I be more specific on?
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tymaboy 06:56 PM 09-09-2009
Originally Posted by mac60:
??? Wow, I didn't understand any of that.
I just read that too & am glad I am not the only one that this made no sense to.
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mac60 02:26 AM 09-10-2009
Originally Posted by Faja:
which parts may I be more specific on?
Pretty much all of it. Looks like I am not the only one who thinks it's way out there.
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ConcernedMotherof2 05:35 AM 09-10-2009
I have to agree... most of that made absolutely no sense.
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seashell 05:52 AM 09-10-2009
Have to agree here. I couldnt follow it either. We'll there's my entertainment for the day. Back to the real world . . .
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Chickenhauler 03:11 AM 09-12-2009
Originally Posted by Faja:
we have one child. as a spiritual person it comes to me it is God that decides when a person is born not people. evil will let people feel they have the power to give life. through people life is also taken away. The People are the true gov. but have been lied to and beleive they have no power to see that. we don't plan on having another child and for sure if we did it would not be for a tax break. we do not decide if we have another child, it is the will of God. even though my spouse is on birth control, chemicals can't stop the will of God. we do show faith by using the chemicals and with the action in faith deny new life thru us.
So you lack faith in God, and thwart his will with chemicals?

Originally Posted by :
if people don't see that the gov are humans also, then they will never see that everyone is the gov. as well as the church. So on t$e other hand yup lets continue with what they say and teach the kids to become /wealthy so their great great great grandchild or children may have the Glory to be by the child's side daily and not a mere year a child request. People spend more time with co workers than their own family unless you count sleeping in the same planet quality time.
Sounds like a personal problem-I spend more quality time with my kids than I do co-workers and am still able to earn the income necessary to care for my children, rather than trying to mandate a law that says I can sit on my butt collecting money that is TAKEN by FORCE from other people AGAINST THEIR WILL.

That is what taxes are.


Originally Posted by :
we are bless to be in success thanks to the ones that aren't.

For the ones i read about yall having babies for a crappy whatever itis yall get , please stop. If it wasn't for you this thread would be full of 2 thumbs up.

Free the Parents

how bout free the kids,
you sip! kids learn
once first grade kicks in, thanks to good parenting thru a single year,
a full of Grace foundation has been est.

what did jesus do inspirations.
Yup, this thread would be full of two thumbs up....your two thumbs. Notice that nobody has agreed with your socialistic mandates but you.

Sorry, but most prefer to stand on their own two legs and take care of their own, rather than crank out a kid and say "Now everyone must bend to my will, I am a parent".

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that English is not your first language.

Either that, or you should go to first grade along with your child and learn to write in complete sentences, use punctuation properly, along with capitalization.
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seashell 07:12 AM 09-14-2009
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Either that, or you should go to first grade along with your child and learn to write in complete sentences, use punctuation properly, along with capitalization.[/quote]

AMEN!
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seashell 07:14 AM 09-14-2009
Hey, the poll recorded my vote wrong! Michael, take me off of the poll! PLEASE!!!!
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GretasLittleFriends 09:01 AM 09-14-2009
The poll doesn't give you much of a choice... You can either have the govt pass the law forcing you to stay home with your child, or you can do what "they" say. Not sure who "they" are, but I believe it to be the government. Either choice here seems to be the same, just worded mildly different. Hmmmm...
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Faja 12:01 PM 09-22-2009
we have one child. Valencia and I (Raul) have one child, his name is Jordan. (pardon my non use of correct and exact grammar, just don't have much time to spell check etc.) this should be clear though so ...as a spiritual person it comes to me it is God that decides when a person is born not people.

(that is very clear on it's own)evil will let people feel they have the power to give life. through people life is given and is also taken away. through people but through the Grace of God. The People are the true gov. (some act as if the Gov. are robots or words on a paper, the gov. are people)the "public" have been lied to and beleive they have no power to see that the Gov. is something that we the people control through people.

we (Valencia and I) don't plan on having another child and for sure if we did it would not be for a tax break. (we are not talking about tax breaks in this thread, we are talking about family quality time uninterrupted due to the way things are) we (V and I) do not decide if we have another child, it is the will of God.(how hard is that to understand?) even though my spouse is on birth control (a chemical), chemicals can't stop the will of God. 99.9999% that the birth control works

we do show faith by using the chemicals (birth control) we have faith in and use with faith the birth control, ( a tool made by God) it will work so we do not create hard situations like having 10 kids. (V and I love each other and lovemaking is a plus :-) )

Admin: I deleted the remainder of this post because it startied to get long and winded. Faja, if you would like to provide a link to your web page I will consider linking the remainder of your views if it pertains to the subject of our website; daycare.
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Faja 12:21 PM 09-23-2009
i tried to be more specific for yall, it was not allowed,well there is no need for further explanation, it is long and really just goes back to the thought that crossed my mind. just thoughts and opinions. I am surprised that people decide to comment about my second language not being as proper as it should. God Bless America and the World. if you still have issues understanding this reply (the ones who weren't specific on what wasn't understood)
again pardon me if I caused any confusion, I love kids and am against taxes.)

investors invest in the kids :-)

Have fun everyone and I may post again. Much Love from a 2 language speaking person ;-)
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